Chat 7

xx :    you know what  my friend?
          i had a very bad time,last day..


Mehmet :  you're interested in arabs.. whatever you do, never marry with an arab, even if possible, never marry with a muslim because your future would be a nightmare with a crappy thing on your head, covering all your face like a slave


Mehmet :

what bad time?

xx :

a conversation

Mehmet:

hmm... and?

xx :

with 2 pakistani men

they criticed me

a lot

because i uploaded 3 pics of arab women

being stoned

Mehmet:

Who are those pakistanis? living there in Peru?

xx :

i had a chat with them

in mirc

Mehmet:

and what was their problem?

xx :

they said

why did you publish these pics?

no son de ninguna fuente confiable

han sido editadas con photoshop

tú estas dejando mal a los paquistanies..

Mehmet:

hahahaha of course it will disturb them because they think İslam is the religion of peace and forgiveness (!)

xx:

y los hombres de medio oriente

pusiste en tu articulo que en paquistan es un acto comun el rocear acido a las mujeres en el rostro

Mehmet:

İslam is devil's ideology, nothing else. A barbaric ideology, bloody, people cut heads in Pakistan, in Somali, in Iraq easily, in the name of İslam.

Mehmet :
Oh yeah, they made photoshop, we all lie, they are the only true ones!


Mehmet:

no problem. welcome again, my dear friend



xx:

well..

i will continue

my friend

Mehmet:

yes, please

listening u

xx:

but in spanish please

Mehmet:

ok as you wish

xx:

you know my english is not so advanced

Mehmet:

be relax

no, its really great..

xx:

ellos me cuestionaron duramente

yo pequé

Mehmet:

You're very good at English

xx:

por decirles que estaba terminando la carrera de periodismo

yo entré al canal de paquistan

en el programa

irc

mirc

entre para entrevistar gente

para subir alguna conversacion interesante a mi blog

les dije en el area general del chat

que escribia un blog

me pidieron el link

2 paquistanies

Mehmet:

yes

xx:

entraron al blog

pero

se encontraron con esas desagradables fotos de mujeres a punto de ser lapidadas

se enfurecieron conmigo

sobre todo porque

en mi articulo

habia unos parrafos

donde se hacia referencia que en paquistan se habian dado varios casos

de mujeres que fueron roceadas con acido

Mehmet:

right!

xx:

bueno ,talvez cometí una imprudencia

las noticias que subo al blog son logicamente de fuentes informativas en internet

dado,que no soy periodista

ni trabajo para algun medio de difusion

ellos me sensuraron

mucho

me dijeron de que debo de publicar los links

de las notas que subo

yo lo venia haciendo

pero nunca escribia el link completo

ellos me dijeron

muchas de esas fotos  son truqueadas

y editadas con photoshop

se sintieron muy ofendidos

segun ellos

porque en una de las fotos mencionadas aparecia una mujer con escritos del coran

en la espalda

Mehmet:

İslam + Coran = No women rights.

xx:

yes i know buddy

mira,especialmente ellos demostraron ser sumamente machistas

Mehmet:

Damn... Even Pakistani muslims.. they are terrible.. they can eat you. cut your meat and eat. believe that. humanity is zero there.




xx:

como te estaba diciendo,criticaron absolutamente todo



xx:

hey Meh

you are muslim isn't it?

Mehmet:


are you joking?

xx:

you are not muslim?

Mehmet:

of course not, I'm Christian

xx:

you christian since when?



Mehmet:

no, i am not. Thanks God

since when i found myself

xx:

when it was?



Mehmet:

for 5 years or so.. but i was never muslim, never did anything it requires because i found them all, backwarded, weird crap!

xx:

mmm..

my friend

most of turks are crap then?

because of being muslims?

Mehmet:

religion is not something comes from your parents like a kingdom, its an ideology which you yourself choose, the nearest one for your mentality

no they surely are not, but for me, i feel it like that.. my grandmothers are muslim, parents too, even though my father doesn't care it, but they are good persons, very good, not hurting nobody, that's why i am sad, they could be better if they were Christians

xx:

welll

my family is catholic

but

i am spiritual

i dont believe in religions

i consider these a big bussines

only a bussines

Mehmet:

my grandmother always prays, gives gift to girls, to people, smiles always, hugs people always, she is a muslim.. i cannot say anything bad for her.. thats her choice, i respect..

xx:

i 've studied bibble since i was a child

etc

Mehmet:

i don't believe, me neither.. but you asked a religion and Christianity is at least has value of humanity inside it, a bit.. i'd prefer that..

xx:

yes

u are right

i think

first of all

pienso que la gente debe de tener conocimientos acerca de las religiones principales en el mundo

y asi hacer su eleccion

como lo hice yo

por ejemplo

ya que yo solia ser muy catolica

Mehmet:

Muslims are so proud that, the Kuran did not change.Ask to a muslim, what's biggest good difference, he will say, Kuran didn't change, but Bible did, changed a lot.They are proud with that. Proud of living under 1400 years old rules. That's why they can still behead/stone people, Bible updated itself because life goes on. Can we live with the rules 2010 years old? like Muslims? What do you think?

xx:

mmmm...

solo quiero saber una cosa

Mehmet:

try that please, ask to a muslim; Are you happy Curan did not change? Stayed "original"? The answer will be ; YES! VERY MUCH!

xx:

podrias responder tu como ex musulman?

si el coran verdaderamente le dice a un hombre que sea inhumano y cruel con su esposa,hermana o hija?

Mehmet:

haahaha ex musulman I told you dear, I was never.. I did not go inside a Mosque and pray, never in my life of 26 years. Never did that 5 times pray in the day. You call that "ex musulman"?

xx:

ohh

i got a mistake

but please

answer my question

en base a el pensamiento musulman


xx:

ok

i asked

Mehmet:

Yes, it is right

xx:

really?



really??????????????????

but i've read a lot

in turkey islam is different

Mehmet:

it is allowed to beat the wife, Coran. But thanks to it, its in Arabic language, and my people don't understand anything so they don't do that hahahaha

xx:

to another countries

mmm

Mehmet:

Yes, right, İslam in Turkey is totally totally different. Otherwise i'd prefer living outside, in a Christian country..

xx:

Meh  tu me dijiste

que yo luzco muy interesada por los arabes

me interesan las diferentes y mas importantes culturas en el mundo

es un conocimiento importante para mi

pero

yo soy democratica

Mehmet:

Thanks to Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the founder of Turkish republic, my country has a secular government system. A secular government means it does not contain anything about religions and it is independent of religion. That's why in Turkey, Christians, Jews, Muslims, everyone live together in peace and happiness. Read about Mustafa Kemal Atatürk someday, please.

xx:

por lo tanto nunca podria casarme con un arabe

con un turco derrepente pero nada de arabes

ni hindus y menos paquistanis

yes i've read about ataturk

Mehmet:

Note this page and read in a free time please: you will learn lots of interesting things: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk


xx:

ok

Mehmet:

i understand

you are a very good person

xx:

well

Mehmet:

open-minded and open to learn the people

xx:

only i like some arab singers

thats all

simpatizo con ellos quiero decir

pero que tiene que ver lo musical,con el islam y el terrorismo?

creo que nada

o si?

y mi favorito es tamer hosny de egipto

y mira que yo soy muy exclusiva ahh


Mehmet:

Women is nothing in Arabic muslim countries, but in Turkey, we even had women prime ministers, our current parliament administrator is a lady, our big companies commercial boss are ladies, our important doctors are ladies, we have tons of women parliamentar in our government, and in the history, we gave women the right of voting, even before France, Switzerland and any other European countries.

xx :

yes,and thats excelent

Mehmet:

But in Saudi Arabia, a women cannot even drive a bike.. Cannot go to police if her husband beated, cannot take children after divorce. İn Turkey, children always go to woman, no matter how "so good person" is the father! Now compare these two muslim countries The story is totally different in Turkey, my friend..

xx :

well

yes

you are right

cause

i've read a lot

about turkey

and islam there

although some people tell me

turks are terrorists

Mehmet:

You beated the wife in Turkey? If she go to police, you are kissing the floors of the prisons, next day! Good luck with your new life.

Ah, the story of good-bad apples.. There are bad apples anywhere, my friend. It is a 70 million people. You think everyone is perfect here? No, its not.. And I'm talking about the governmental system of Turkey, i am not talking about few of some its crazy people with long beard and extreme crazy islamic ideas. There are terrorists everywhere. Do you know about ETA in Spain? IRA in the UK?

Sendero Luminoso (the Shining Path) and Tupac Amaru (MRTA) in Peru?

If the "Shining path" members in Peru are terrorists, does this mean all the Peruvians are terrorists? Gloria is a terrorist too? We world peoples are always having such silly discriminations, generalisations and stereotypes..

xx:

yes

thats absolutely right

but my friend

there are not 70 million of people

my friend here says

Mehmet:

in Turkey there are

IcH bIn DiE sChOnE!!!!!! 님의 말:

we are about 6,000 millions

Mehmet:

Who "we"?

xx:

we

in the world



Mehmet:

70 million is the population of Turkey, which i was talking about.

xx:

ok

got it


Mehmet:

And we are 6,870,700,000 people in the world

xx:


yes for sure

uffff

well

Mehmet:

oh no, its 6,870,759,556 now

xx:

que desastrozo es el islam

uffffffffffff

pero este tema

es un poco

contradictorio

porque yo lei tambien

que el coran mandaba respetar a la familia

y a la esposa

Mehmet:

Actually whole the religions are waste of time, nothing else. But we need them. Otherwise, we could eat each other for 1 dollar If we don't do that, its because we are "afraid" of God. That's a good thing.

xx:

mmm...

mira,yo por eso ahora soy espiritual

what it means?

osea como he sido catolica

y he estudiado la biblia

sigo el camino de dios

y no hago mal a la gente

no voy a la iglesia

considero que esto es hipocrecia

Mehmet:

And never forget, religions does not matter, nationalities doesn't matter, but personalities do matter, a lot! It's all about being a good human for the mankind, having a good and stable personality. The rest is story..

xx:

y perdida de tiempo

hay mucha gente golpeandose el pecho y rezando tanto en las iglesias sin embargo,son tremendos pecadores y nunca dejaran de serlo

second..

xx:

en el vaticano hay tremenda corrupcion


xx:

 y ese papa Josep Ratzinger no me convence
 mas bien me hace recordar a Hitller

 y el unico que era de mi agrado era karol wojtyla

Mehmet:

very good point.. you're right..

xx:

digo que hay corrupcion y mafia

 hay tantos sacerdotes pedofilos

que fueron descubiertos

inclusive protegidos

por el vaticano

Mehmet:

We could be a great couple You know lots of things and i am proud of you. I have lots of things to talk with you, to discuss, which is not common with todays girls

x:

yes we could


we are both smarts



Mehmet:

I totally agree that; "HAY TANTOS SACERDOTES PEDOFILOS QUE FUERON DESCUBIERTOS INCLUSIVE PROTEGIDOS POR EL VATICANO" Yes, that's right too. What can we do... They manage the world. They rule that beautiful religion and they are not even shy because of that.

xx:

 they dont manage the world

the devil does



Mehmet:

might be

xx:

 this is not kingdom of god

Mehmet:

i'd believe that too... indeed

xx:

 the devil governs here
well

 i was saying my dear friend

 i dont trust Joseph  Ratzinger

 i dont simpatize  with him

 he reminds me sometimes to hittler

 and his face doesn't convince me at all



Mehmet:

neither me...

xx:

but karol wojtyla yes

 but maybe is in heaven now

Mehmet:

i don't know why, but whenever i see him, i feel something is not ok, and his smile is totally fake..

xx:
yes i agree totally with you



Mehmet:

Ah... Charles Joseph Wojtyla was amazing person. Really a beautiful heart and a true Christian. If there is a heaven, he is sure there!

xx:

 i will upload an article  about him in my blog

 and his life while he was pope

Mehmet:

wonderful person

xx:

yes

so nice
and charismatic